By the way - you apparently don’t even understand how elections work. Oregon is a Blue state. Harris won by something like 14%. I could have voted for Trump and it would have made no difference. But yes, I voted for RFK because I helped petition for the formation of the We the People Party here in Oregon and to keep it viable we had to get at least 1% of the vote. I felt that was the only productive thing I could do with my vote as it gives us a platform for other candidates in future elections. As if there was a future…
So yes, I”ll publish this with your name and icon unless you specifically request I don’t. And you had better be nice about it because honestly I don’t have to do that courtesy for you. You have no respect for other people. I do.
Back in the day when we were aligned in our criticism and suspicion of government, I thought it was because we recognized the key figures as immoral lying warmongers who didn't care about the lives of ordinary people. But no - apparently I was wrong about that - it was because they were "right wing" immoral lying warmongers. Left wing immoral lying warmongers are great - even if they don't care about the lives of ordinary people!
I suspect the actual reason you're unwilling to engage in any substantive discussion is because in your heart of hearts you know the Democrats are just as indefensible as the Republicans. But sadly your hatred of Trump and "right wingers" is far stronger than your concern for truth or love of country.
Have you ever paused to wonder why so many of the Left's heroes in Journalism (you know, the field that gives us some sense of what's going on the in the world) have all of a sudden been labelled "right wing" or "racist" merely for reporting the facts of cases that reveal the hypocrisy and criminality of Democrats? I'm talking about people like Glenn Greenwald, Matt Taiibbi, Julian Assange etc...
The fact that "liberals" (just another meaningless designation) so quickly turned their backs on these journalists without seriously considering the rather profound implications of the reporting shows that the Democrat establishment operates like an authoritarian or fascist cult. If you do not tow the party line you are immediately ejected. Everyone just falls into formation following the propaganda fed to them via approved corporate media outlets like CNN, NPR, NY Times etc. All of these are pro-war, pro corporate, anti-worker and anti-free speech (fascism is "the integration of corporate and state power" B. Mussolini).
They spend so much time talking about "misinformation, malinformation and disinformation" to scare you into compliance. They control your speech - and thus they are controlling your mind. This is precisely what Orwell warned us about.
Yes, it's frightening and dangerous to go against approved narratives in times like these. If you're aware of the thinking of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn you'll recognize that this is precisely the time to have serious discussion on these issues. If we don't all engage now we will end up in the gulags. There is not much time left. My recommendation to you is to approach your closest "right winger" and invite him/her to have a coffee in the hopes that you might come to understand their perspective.
Now I will return to my efforts to convince my Trump supporting friends that they are in for a very severe disappointment (still in the hopes that by some strange miracle I will be proven wrong!).
Yes, well - what your doing here is illustrating that you have no argument. "Dumb", "right wing", "coward". The only thing you're apparently capable of is insult. This is called ad hominem - personal attack to avoid discussing the positions put before you.
And no - mentioning medicaid funding is not a substantial argument against the many Democrat crimes I detailed for you.
Fascists are created by the attitude you're adopting here. When you reactively and emotionally condemn those with whom you disagree and refuse to discuss the vital issues of the day you leave your opponent with little option but strong arm tactics - because you've adopted the same intolerant and disdainful attitude towards them.
Respect is the bare requirement for a civil society. Without it society tears itself apart. This is the fundamental point of the piece I wrote. I'm not defending Trump or the Republicans. I'm saying that the citizenry will get what it deserves if it falls for the divisive ploy of the duopoly. Trump and Obama seemed to get along just great at Carter's funeral. They're on the same team. And the job of that team is to turn the American people against each other.
You have no willingness to examine your own position. You therefore fail to realize that you (and your comrades who adopt the same attitude) are in fact the ones responsible for Trump's return.
Here's one of the most serious and well informed voices on the Left explaining how the Democrats drove so many otherwise reasonable people to vote for Trump: https://x.com/AskBabaDog/status/1882113652947657034
On one thing we provisionally agree: this Trump administration will likely be the end of the USA; and of what little remains of a decent life here.
You better get out of there then.
If you have actual criticism how about you take a stab at articulating it?
Nice try but I already grabbed the screenshots.
By the way - you apparently don’t even understand how elections work. Oregon is a Blue state. Harris won by something like 14%. I could have voted for Trump and it would have made no difference. But yes, I voted for RFK because I helped petition for the formation of the We the People Party here in Oregon and to keep it viable we had to get at least 1% of the vote. I felt that was the only productive thing I could do with my vote as it gives us a platform for other candidates in future elections. As if there was a future…
So yes, I”ll publish this with your name and icon unless you specifically request I don’t. And you had better be nice about it because honestly I don’t have to do that courtesy for you. You have no respect for other people. I do.
Back in the day when we were aligned in our criticism and suspicion of government, I thought it was because we recognized the key figures as immoral lying warmongers who didn't care about the lives of ordinary people. But no - apparently I was wrong about that - it was because they were "right wing" immoral lying warmongers. Left wing immoral lying warmongers are great - even if they don't care about the lives of ordinary people!
I suspect the actual reason you're unwilling to engage in any substantive discussion is because in your heart of hearts you know the Democrats are just as indefensible as the Republicans. But sadly your hatred of Trump and "right wingers" is far stronger than your concern for truth or love of country.
Have you ever paused to wonder why so many of the Left's heroes in Journalism (you know, the field that gives us some sense of what's going on the in the world) have all of a sudden been labelled "right wing" or "racist" merely for reporting the facts of cases that reveal the hypocrisy and criminality of Democrats? I'm talking about people like Glenn Greenwald, Matt Taiibbi, Julian Assange etc...
The fact that "liberals" (just another meaningless designation) so quickly turned their backs on these journalists without seriously considering the rather profound implications of the reporting shows that the Democrat establishment operates like an authoritarian or fascist cult. If you do not tow the party line you are immediately ejected. Everyone just falls into formation following the propaganda fed to them via approved corporate media outlets like CNN, NPR, NY Times etc. All of these are pro-war, pro corporate, anti-worker and anti-free speech (fascism is "the integration of corporate and state power" B. Mussolini).
They spend so much time talking about "misinformation, malinformation and disinformation" to scare you into compliance. They control your speech - and thus they are controlling your mind. This is precisely what Orwell warned us about.
Yes, it's frightening and dangerous to go against approved narratives in times like these. If you're aware of the thinking of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn you'll recognize that this is precisely the time to have serious discussion on these issues. If we don't all engage now we will end up in the gulags. There is not much time left. My recommendation to you is to approach your closest "right winger" and invite him/her to have a coffee in the hopes that you might come to understand their perspective.
Now I will return to my efforts to convince my Trump supporting friends that they are in for a very severe disappointment (still in the hopes that by some strange miracle I will be proven wrong!).
Best wishes.
Yes, well - what your doing here is illustrating that you have no argument. "Dumb", "right wing", "coward". The only thing you're apparently capable of is insult. This is called ad hominem - personal attack to avoid discussing the positions put before you.
And no - mentioning medicaid funding is not a substantial argument against the many Democrat crimes I detailed for you.
Fascists are created by the attitude you're adopting here. When you reactively and emotionally condemn those with whom you disagree and refuse to discuss the vital issues of the day you leave your opponent with little option but strong arm tactics - because you've adopted the same intolerant and disdainful attitude towards them.
Respect is the bare requirement for a civil society. Without it society tears itself apart. This is the fundamental point of the piece I wrote. I'm not defending Trump or the Republicans. I'm saying that the citizenry will get what it deserves if it falls for the divisive ploy of the duopoly. Trump and Obama seemed to get along just great at Carter's funeral. They're on the same team. And the job of that team is to turn the American people against each other.
You have no willingness to examine your own position. You therefore fail to realize that you (and your comrades who adopt the same attitude) are in fact the ones responsible for Trump's return.
Here's one of the most serious and well informed voices on the Left explaining how the Democrats drove so many otherwise reasonable people to vote for Trump: https://x.com/AskBabaDog/status/1882113652947657034
On one thing we provisionally agree: this Trump administration will likely be the end of the USA; and of what little remains of a decent life here.
https://youtu.be/kE7UwSc_Z6s?si=pMWvjYcBOccUoXe3